I just watched this fascinating video on YouTube. It is about the a) earliest versions of the Koran (70 years after the death of Muhammad) found to date and b) an innovative translation method that is extremely accurate. Muslim countries have banned it. Natch.
The oldest versions don't have vowel markings or distinguishing dots over letters so words from the original can have up to 30 different meanings.
At the time of the Koran's original construction Arabic writing was just starting. In fact the Koran is the VERY FIRST BOOK WRITTEN IN ARABIC. So the language would be very different from today. As different as english was a thousand years ago. See if you can understand an olde inglishee style version of Beowulf or even the Canterbury Tales, written in the middle ages. So the very first arabic writing was a mishmash of spoken arabic and other established written languages - like english is (a great many of the words we use are of french or german or latin origin).
The author posited that one of the languages was Syro-Aramaic. A widely used written language in the region at that time but which is no longer used. When applied to an understanding of the ancient Koran it turns many passages on their heads.
For instance the passage that many claim is responsible for women having to wear the hajib is just telling them they should go about wearing belts (like monks of the time wore). Another passage mentioned is the one about the 72 virgins (or houris (make up yer mind Muhammad!)). In the more accurate translation it is talking about white grapes. In frescoes in the region made at that time people can be seen sitting on angels laps being given white grapes as a symbol for spiritual succor. As Islam took bits and pieces from Christianity and Judaism, that the Koran says you can have wonderful wine in heaven may be sourced to that christian symbolism too.
There are other examples.
I suggest that the anti jihadist of the sort who reads the Koran/hadith/sira HAS to get a copy of this book. It is The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran by Christoph Luxenberg (Not the author's real name. He used a nome de plume because he didn't wanna go boom).
Here is the book at amazon:
The Syro-Aramaic Reading of the Koran (I don't have a deal with amazon and have not monetized this blog).
What is so mind boggling about this is that it may well turn out that muslims who preach a strict literal following of the Koran et all have been following a complete mistranslation. The mother of all mistranslations in fact. All those women covered head to toe in bee keeper outfits could have been walking around in shorts and breathable cotton blouses all these centuries- just as long as they also wear belts.
Update on that last paragraph. The 90 year old brother of Hasan al Bana, the originator of the ultra right wing Muslim Brotherhood (the group behind the resurgance of the burka phenomenon) and the author of over 90 books on the Koran and Islam, said there is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING anywhere in the holy books that says anything about wearing the head scarf or burka. The passage he says is used to justify the burka actually says muslim woman are not allowed to expose their breasts in public. THATS IT. So according to real orthodox fundamentalist islam, muslim women are allowed to wear WHATEVER THE FUCK THEY WANT, they just can't go topless or appear in a muslims go wild video. It makes all those public beatings in Sudan and Afganistan women get for wearing trousers or toe polish even more inescusable. Not that that's possible.
Here is the link to the video. It is a 50 minute documentary by a mulim man interviewing other muslim men about the Muslim Brotherhood posted by Kitman TV:
Freedom, Equality and the Moslim Brotherhood
So in fact Bin Ladin Al Quida, the Saudis and the Muslim Brotherhood really really are actual apostates. They believe the Koran is the exact word of god and cannot be refuted by man. But that word of god they have based their beliefs has been mistranslated by men. In fact ALL MUSLIMS COULD BE APOSTATES. Jeez louise. You see now why I think this is a big deal?
There are a few muslim scholars in the vid who argue against him but their arguments are pretty old hat and have been refuted by experts on the subject (people who have actual degrees in this stuff - not doofoids like yours truelly). If you do a little looking up you might find which middle eastern country funds the various chairs one or more of these islamic scholars hold.
That muslims have made this guy scared to show his real name or face shows they care far more about the earthly benefits of power and wealth the current translation of the Koran gets them and don't really give a shit about spirituality or their souls in the afterlife. If they did they would certainly be more interested in a provably more accurate translation. If they believe the Koran is the direct word of god to Muhammad- don't they want to know what god REALLY said? Not if it makes the bitches and Covassier dry up they don't.
I couldn't get it to display as well as it appears on YouTube so I put a link to it instead. Right click and choose open in new tab or window so you can come back here for the link for the book if you are interested. If you have comments about the vid please make them on the vids YouTube page. If you have comments about this commentary leave those comments on this page.
The Vid:
The Qur'an - Original Manuscript and Interpretation
Before blaming Pastor Jones for this Bill O'Reilley should have remembered he himself lives in a pico thin glass house crammed to the rafters with pitch plack pots.
Gee, Truthiocity, what ever do you mean by that? Let me explain:
O'Reilley incited people against one Dr. Tiller and presented information about the man's location to the public. Shortly after somebody went to Dr. Tiller's location and killed him. That is far worse than what he mistakenly accuses Pastor Jones of.
Pastor Jones expected protests like those over the Danish Motoons. He did not forsee that his act of defiance would be cynically exploited for political and military purposes. How could he have?
Seriously, have any of you ever thought someone would use your forum comment or youtube video or blog post as an excuse to kill 20 or more people in cold blood?
OF COURSE NOT!
You would have to be insane to think any one thing you said could have such an effect.
There is no possible way Pastor Jones could have predicted his actions would be used as an excuse for a series of murders. Murders, I might add, that were entirely planned out and orchestrated not by random mobs but by hardened Taliban butchers. If anything Pastor Jones was too rational in his thinking.
O'Reilley on the other hand knew exactly what would happen if he puplished the location of somene he was railing against.
He should keep his venomous pie hole shut about Pastor Jones, and by extension, our, constutionally granted right to free speach.
There is another sinister factor. The OIC was recently successfull in mounting a putch against free speech at the UN concearning the criticism of religion. The OIC is currently SLIPSTREAMING behind these atrocities to give weight to this obscene attack against our right to free speech. They are trying to bully us into inhibiting the rights of expression of our own citizens in regards to the aggression many believe to be directly inspired by religous teachings for the furtherance of an anti democratic agenda.
An anti democratic agenda the results of which can be seen in every single country that is a member of the OIC. Could any of those places be mistaken for The Platonic Ideal of Utopia? Hells no.
The OIC arguement behind the anti defimation of religion nonsense is that if you criticize a religion it will lead directly to members of that religion being physically attacked. They are using the murder orgy in Pakistan and Afganistan as a specific example of what can happen if countries do not comply with the defamation of religion hog wash.
HOWEVER this series of murders is not the example the OIC would like it to seem. A religon was insulted- but the result was NOT members of that religion being killed. Rather it was the members of that religion who killed non members as a result. So it is absolutely not illustrative of the dangers of permitting the defamation of religion. It is, in fact, the perfect example of what happens when the right to free speech is not universally respected (ta-DAAA!).
The invasions of Afganistan and Iraq may or may not have been about defending our American way of life- BUT THIS BATTLE ABSOLUTELY IS. And so far Senator Graham and Bill O'Reilley have disgraced themselves by so quickly betraying the constitution (the benifits of which they have made full use of) and have given aid and comfort to the enemy by not standing behind Pastor Jones right to free speech.
Some say Pastor Jones was right and some say he was wrong. I DON'T CARE. Under our constitution he has the right to make whatever statements he likes. It is up to other people to agree or disagree. It is NOT up to other people to determine what he is allowed to say. And it is ABSOLUTLY NOT up to other people to decide to kill in responce.
Many people are right now thinking of ways to respond to this. I hope your responce will be to defend our constitution.